Monday, 24 October 2011

Facebook debate on Wales v France ref decision…

Most interested in the argument that cropped up about not listening to other people. It’s not a valid argument (no-one seems to have noticed) but it raises a point about individuality. If we decide to base our thoughts on what others are thinking, what do we do if they are thinking you shouldn’t do that? Like when Brian—in the ‘Life of Brian’—tells the throng that ‘they are all individual’ what a stupid thing to say because if it’s true then how can you tell them? If they need telling then they already aren’t! Indeed the very fact we can talk about “individuality” at all is proof that it doesn’t exist! Is there an SRH argument here?

In the face of an outrageous ref decision that invalidates the outcome of a game isn't it better for the whole team to just walk off the pitch?
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Alva Gosson Even if Wales win the cost will damage the final. Strike!
October 15 at 9:30am · Like

Jeremy Edwards It all depends on which course of action raises the most revenue.
October 15 at 10:02am · Like

Michael Sissons No! They'd be banned from competitive rugby. Not every commentator is agreeing that wasn't a red cardable tackle, either...
October 15 at 10:13am · Like
Alva Gosson Hi Jeremy, sadly I think you're right. I was against rugby becoming professional... yes it means the players have more time to concentrate on rugby and the rugby is better, but it risks people starting to play not rugby but the stupid game of trade and income... which is vacuous and pointless. Sadly too many people spend their lives playing this game. Unlike in football I still believe these guys play rugby.. which is why it is the far superior sport (still).
October 15 at 10:50am · Like
Alva Gosson Hi Mike, well if the IRB decided to back the decision and ban Wales then they would invalidate themselves, and set off a huge political battle. A niche would immediately open up for any group/tournament who would include Wales and other teams would have to decide whether they backed the IRB. The IRB could become isolated and defunct and a new rugby board evolve. I wouldn't let all that stupid politics get in the way of my team walking off. (As a principle it never matters what other people think btw.)
October 15 at 10:55am · Like
Alva Gosson ‎(p.s. reason for that is that if the principle was to base our thoughts on what other people believe, what do we do if other people don't believe that principle ;-)
October 15 at 11:00am · Like
Alva Gosson ‎(p.p.s. absolutely technically for an image processing computer, it was a red card, but I would expect the red card to be for something that was either deliberate or un-professionally sloppy. Being upended on to your shoulders from waist height is utterly trivial... I'll put money on it the famously shifty French played that for all its worth (if the player had leapt to his feet--as he could have--it wouldn't even have been noticed); no risk of injury at all, and nothing more than a fantastic tackle! Shocker!)
October 15 at 11:13am · Like

Cheong Kong Chen I bet u will be seriously torn when both of ur "favourite" teams get into the final. And I wonder if u r going to watch it ;)
October 15 at 11:49am · Like
Alva Gosson Well rugby is the most important bit, how the teams play the second, and who the teams are the third. First two apply to everyone; the third just personal preference. So won't make much difference who gets thru :-) Personally I hope it's NZ because a NZ v France final would be the most unpredictable (given history). Objectively I hope so too because if NZ don't win this the bomb on Hiroshima for the Japanese will be a firework compared to the fall out in NZ! Sadly the final is spoilt because thanks to Alain Roland (hmmm french/irish) the N. Hemisphere isn't fielding its better team for the final so everything is messed up on all levels for everyone. Plus Australia objectively can't win because that makes it 3 WCs from 7 and they're cocky little b*****ds at the best of times ;-)
October 15 at 12:27pm · Like

Jeremy Edwards Rugby, racing & beer ...
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