Is the Universe Infinite or was it Created?

Giordano Bruno (1548–1600) is interesting. He imagined firing an arrow into the sky, but one that did not get pulled back to Earth, one that followed the line of sight. What would it find? He argued that it had only 2 options (1) either go forward or (2) hit something. If it hit something then just go through it to the other side and keep going. Thus he argued the universe was infinite. Its a bit like a 3D flat earth argument. Flat Earthists want infinite plane, well a lot of people think infinite space.

Problem with Creationism is its a bit of a non theory. Its like someone saying "what is an apple" and you go "the fruit of an apple tree". And they say what is an "apple tree" and you say the "tree which makes these" it is circular. At end of day we have no idea what an apple is. Creationism says: where did man come from? He was made. Made by what. God. What is God? Big man in the sky.

"God so created Man in His own image." [Genesis 1:27]

SO God and Man are the same types of thing. SO where did God come from then? Actually we have learned nothing.

So the obvious solution is push this circularity. I remember asking my Dad as a kid "if God is all powerful can he make himself" and that question has become a major one ever since.

I call it SRH and the answer is absolutely NO.

Buddhism also say NO. Very important issue this.

Things are ALWAYS made from what they are not. This is essence of idea of "make."

Pie and Mash shop by Greg Davis.. genius! https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=668506223607917

"its not just pie they put in those"

pie must be made from not-pie!

So Man cannot be made from man (or God)!

Either that or Man is not made... and if we are not made then we are eternal.. and that is basically correct. This is the reason why we are immortal, because we are not actually made! That gets rehashed into various forms in the religions. This is why we are in "image of God" because like him we are immortal. And "sin" leads us away from this to death. So Bruno actually correct universe is infinite and there was no start to time! It is immortal, as are we.

The world as we experience it, the mortal, temporal bits are just the observable phenomena.